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      15 days ago

      in that article (which i had to use the Bypass Paywalls Clean extension to comfortably read) Proton states “we do not comply with US subpoenas from either party.” which of course is because they comply fully with Swiss subpoenas LOL

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    France is. The EU is working on trying to get EU-made solutions in use. Switzerland is not in the EU and neither is the UK.

    Now that we established this, we can have a productive conversation.

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    I think its great that Europe is looking to rely less on US tech but nothing about whats going on with Europe (especially within the EU) makes me think privacy is a focus.

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          14 days ago

          But I’m an American so what do I know?

          You know much more about the world around you than the orange turd that claims to be the leader of the free world. Don’t sell yourself short, mate! It’ll take people like you to rebuild once this is over.

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        13 days ago

        It hasn’t stopped countries like France, and Italy (not a complete list just examples) from being some of the least privacy friendly western governments.

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      Europe is not ready for what that will cost.

      Not true. We’ve seen the U.S. leverage big tech against its perceived enemies by shutting them down remotely. Unless Europe bends over backwards to serve the U.S. fascists’ every whim, this form of blackmail-by-proxy is going to continue, and it’s only going to get worse.

      So the calculation is not: “cost of switching” vs. “cost of continuing the existing vendor lock-in”.

      It is: “cost of switching” vs. “cost of shutting down operations for good”.

      It’s really easy maths if you break it down to its core. It’s maths that even the most bone-headed of our leaders and business “experts” can do. That is, unless they’re peddling somebody else’s agenda…