• SoloCritical@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    While a great sentiment, it’s unbelievably unrealistic. There will always be things people will die for. Likewise, there will always be things people will kill for.

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      Me: Hey, stop that!

      Guy who broke into my house: What a great sentiment, but it’s unbelievably unrealistic throws my stuff into a giant bag there will always be things people will want to steal.

      When criticism is levied against the empire, it gets framed as “stopping all violence forever.” The same framing is not used when it comes to criticism of enemies of the empire. Nobody talks about Iran in terms of “We can’t do anything about them because violence will always exists.” Why? Because they framed as being somehow uniquely beligerant, while the empire is framed as being “the normal amount” of beligerant - even though the empire is much more violent, beligerant, and aggressive than Iran or any other country.

      You can want the most murderous regime on the planet to stop attacking countries without the expectation that all violence will end forever.

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      3 days ago

      Yankees bombing schoolchildren is not just “a fact of life” good lord. Your army is the single most murderous force in the last 100 years or so. Death to Amerikkka.

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        Same kinda shit has been happening since the Ubaid period 10,000 BC so it kind of is a fact of life.

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        It doesn’t matter what country we’re talking about. People on a fundamental level will never stop killing eachother. Downvote me all you like. It will never stop. We will always find some reason to kill other people. Whether they’re poor, or a different color than us, or because your government tells you they’re a threat to you, or whether they’re building bombs to use on you, or they’re raping and pillaging your home. You act like there’s some magic light switch you can just flip and turn off all the violence. It must be nice to live in fairytale land. You yourself are a contradiction to yourself “oh stop all murder! Except amerikkka! Kill all Americans!”

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          lmao your yankee propaganda has you convinced that everyone is just as murderous as your stromtroops, they’re just faster and better equipped, but I can assure you that neither is true. You’re so deep in your propaganda that you can’t separate a population from it’s government either. Do you realise that your life isn’t magically tethered to the yankee government and people won’t just flop to the ground all over your occupied areas as soon as the white house is bombed?

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            It’s just naive to think people will ever stop killing eachother. You seem to think America is the root of all evil, which is great I don’t think much of us either. But let’s speak facts, long before America was ever even a thought in our forefathers sperm, Genghis Khan was out there killing 40 million people. Or maybe the Timurid Conquests, where 20 million were killed, they also built skull pyramids as a terror tactic. How about the Spanish conquests where over 50 million indigenous people were killed? I suppose they were all super peaceful too until big bad America came along and started killing everyone. Grow up.

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              It’s naive to think that the USA is just like any other country when they are doing shit like bombing schools, raping and burning kids. The genocide of the native americans alone was put at around 55 million, which already exceeds any number you’ve given. But the murders and evil brought on the world in the last 100 years would likely exceed all of them put together. And lets not pretend that the US doesn’t benefit from the spanish conquests with the amount of territory it stole from mexico and the neocolonization of latin america.

              But then there are also the genocidal campaigns across africa, looting the people and enslaving them, korea where they threw bombs in the sea because there was literally nothing left to bomb? Burning entire villages alive in vietnam, raping and butchering (The only thing unique about the My Lai massacre was that it had a whistle-blower), the torture prisons of Guantanamo and Abu ghraib (which included raping children infront of their mothers). What you’re country did in Jakarta?? What its currently doing in Gaza?? In Sudan??

              I know your hollywood slop like Game of Thrones would have you believe that this is just how war is but I assure you this is a very euro-american evil. What’s naive is to think that the current state of the world is just how it’s always been, and that there isn’t empire that controls almost every corner of the globe. The existence of your country makes me doubt gods.

              Edit: this is a yankee bomb your colony pissrael fired yesterday

              There is no genocide, major war and only a few war crimes in the last 80 years that can’t be blamed on your country. The You Piss A’.

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                Numbers 31:17-18, the text states: “Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.”

                That’s ancient man talking about killing everyone in a village, except the little girls they take as rape slaves. But sure, America invented evil and I suppose scaphism, the wheel, quartering, the burning bull etc were all American inventions, apparently.

                It’s nice you’ve found your boogieman though. An unslayable monster that if only it was slain peace would return to earth, and when wars did happen they would be very orderly and polite and obey those Geneva conventions.

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                  ut sure, America invented evil and I suppose scaphism

                  go fuck your strawman, sound yourself with some hay for all I care

                  Ohhh all those people were raping and murdering too so its ok if we do it on an industrial scale!! Barbara Pit for all of you

                  Holy shit literally the next comment you post was crybullying about uyghurs, the complete lack of self-awareness on you people is just stupefying.

                  We are the most evil people on earth but chyna chyna chyna dont look at our crimes, dont look at gaza, sudan, iran, look at the uyghurs, look at them, here satellite images of buildings, now imagine whats going on in there!!! Its probably like abu ghraib or guantanamo but uhhh oriental, so even scarier!

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                    Ohhh all those people were raping and murdering too so its ok if we do it on an industrial scale!!

                    You might want to learn what a strawman is since I never said it was “okay”. I said it was a fact of life, dumb fucking idiot.

                    Is your big “revelation” that America does evil? No shit genius. Anyone with eyeballs can see that. Do you want a fucking trophy or maybe next you can describe to me how the sky is blue???

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                Great, nobody is arguing USA is a warmonger they def are. I’m simply saying violence will never end. Long after the USA is nothing but a memory, humans will still destroy eachother in any number of imaginable ways. You seem to be arguing that without the USA the entire world would just simply start holding hands and all murder/violence instantly end. You keep trying to bring this back to “USA BAD”… well no shit. Keep crying.

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                  You seem to be arguing that without the USA the entire world would just simply start holding hands and all murder/violence instantly end.

                  complete strawman. This whole chain started with you wanting to make ICE other countries problem as well

                  Keep crying.

                  “yeah we are the most warmongering nation that will blow up, burn and rape kids. Keep crying about it lol”

                  I’m starting to come around to the

                  “i wish no harm to the american ruling class, my enemy is the american people”

                  school of thought tbh

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      We should start getting rid of the people who actively want that. Dangerous line of thinking i guess, but nobody can tell me that the wold wouldnt be net positive for removing trump, putin, xi, weidel, etc.

      Edit: counts for everyone next in line as well so long as they try to keep the idiology/insanity up

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          Nothing, but go ask that same question to a Uyghur. Generally speaking, lifelong dictators tend to be not so great people.

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              24 hours ago

              Are you unironically using the aftermath of the Tiananmen Square massacre to make some kind of point about the restraint of Chinese pigs vs American pigs?

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                guy steps in front of literal army tanks during a city wide riot, trying to topple the government, lynching sodiers
                walks away

                people step in front of a police cruiser during a peaceful localized protest condemning some evil action
                get run over
                this keeps happening again and again and again and again and again

                Yeah, I think it’s a good illustration

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                    seeing how they still have their barrell cap I’m gonna go with “parking”

                    also the point is that he walked away

                    Oh these tanks were mowing people down by the hundreds but this one guy was off limits for some reason?

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          Shouldve added kim instead? I guess i didnt pay attention which instance i commented on but “lmao” indeed