• LemmyEntertainYou@piefed.social
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    11 hours ago

    I’m not entirely against EVs but they’re simply not ready for me yet. I think an actual usuable 300 mile range would be enough for me which we’re probably approaching quite soon. The biggest problem though is the cost and complete lack of nice estate car EVs. £10k is usually my budget for a new car and I very rarely pay that.

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      10 hours ago

      The price is definitely the bigger issue for EVs, but even then they definitely need to either roughly double range or halve charging time from 20% to 80%. Right now, they don’t quite cover enough of users needs, especially at the price. I need a vehicle that covers 90-95% of my use cases, and EVs are sitting closer to 80%.

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        10 hours ago

        Your EV charges at home while you are sleeping. I spend less time “refueling” my EV than I spent putting gas in my hybrid, even including the occasional fast charging stops.

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          8 hours ago

          A couple of minutes every few weeks is a lot more convenient than having to plan in 30 minute charging breaks into the longer journeys.

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            7 hours ago

            Sure, a couple of minutes every week or so. Do you know how long it takes you to plug in and unplug an EV in every night? Literally less than 4 seconds. No special trips, no waiting for a pump, no authorizing with your card, no waiting for the actual fuel to go in the tank.

            As for my longer trip, it only wastes 30 minutes if you do nothing with that time. I get lunch, or take a piss, or stretch my legs for a bit, or check out a local shop. When I do EV trips with non-EV drivers, they’re always amazed at how much of a non-hassle most charging experiences are.

            My partner and I prefer to use the EV for some of our longer trips (2+ hours) because of it’s comfort features, “fuel” economy, quietness, and how it doesn’t stink like a gas car does. Charging stops are a non-issue, a surprising amount of places have destination chargers at them or nearby. Just plug the car in, enter payment, and go do whatever you were going to do that day, and have a “full tank” when you get back. The only people I hear complain about how awful it is to make a charging stop, are people who have never had do one.

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              20 minutes ago

              I never make special trips for petrol, nor do I ever have to wait to get on a pump. I have heard countless stories of EV drivers have to wait hours to get on a charging point however.

              I don’t want to go find lunch or visit local shops when I have a long drive. I want to be able to get there and back with zero hassle.

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          7 hours ago

          That’s great for the 80%. It doesn’t help the 10-15% where a road trip becomes significantly longer, or when you don’t have access to home charging on vacation or a weekend trip. I find a way to work around a once or twice a year event that’s not great for an EV, but I can’t justify a car that doesn’t work for me once or twice per month.

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      9 hours ago

      I like the ioniq 5 n and it would be my choice if I were given an EV as a daily driver, but the range is too low at around 220 miles. I would be able to survive on that will minimal issue, but I take 3+ hour one way trips fairly regularly for events or to see friends. If that was closer to 300 mil range, I think I’d be fine with it as a lot of super charger will get to 80% charge in about 15 min. My average fill up on a road trip is probably 10 min, so I could live.

      The biggest factor is msrp on the ioniq 5 n is like $65k, so not happening.