Everyone pointing fingers at the name Young Turks had better not be a fan of Blondie or Joy Division.
The west has stopped quietly committing genocide against the wishes of it’s people, started forcibly and loudly committing genocide against the desperate cries of it’s people.
And Cenk still won’t change the name of his media organization from the perpetrators of the Armenian genocide he spent most of his life denying…
Even know, he just admits the Aremenian genocide could be considered a genocide. But refusing to change the name of his company.
I don’t know how or why genocide deniers are ever considered “the good guys”.
Loads of conflicts is two groups of assholes fighting.
But there are podcasters out there who don’t support any genocide too…
Omg shut the fuck up, we know he’s a hypocrite. Everyone here knows this and agrees with you. But this is a much larger issue than one dildo’s genocide denial. You’re effectively muting discussion about ever-more authoritarian western governments unilaterally silencing dissent in favor of your pet soapbox. I’m willing to bet that everyone in this thread is 100% in agreement with you about Cenk but for the love of god please have a sense of priorities, talk about Cenk’s hypocrisy somewhere that your energy will actually make a difference and not incidentally make it look like you don’t give a fuck about Palestinian genocide (Because I’m guessing you do care about that [edit: Now in doubt]). Please.
You’re effectively muting discussion
No, I’m saying we shouldnt listen to a family of millionaires who made their money denying genocide on how bad genocide is…
Finding someone who agrees no genocide is valid, isn’t a tall order.
And speaking out against genocide denial, is never a bad thing
I’m not just going to ignore it because your favorite streamer does it buddy
I don’t even sub to Piker but you do know that he is at odds with his uncle over that and other issues, right? He would agree with your stance on the Armentian genocide. He didn’t leave TYT without reason.
Anyway, the UK is picking and choosing which foreigners get to advocate which issues on UK soil in order to foment complicity with a current and ongoing genocide, and apparently you’re in favor of that so you can fuck right off.
I don’t even like Hasan, it’s annoying how much “moderates” have forced me to be on his side lately.
I love Hasan. I wish more privileged voices were as concise and consistent and forceful on left issues like he is. If there were several dozen more people like him we wouldn’t all have to couch our support for their advocacy with a milquetoast disclaimer about how we “don’t even like them”.
Hell, I’m a vegan and an anarchist. He regularly throws those aspects of my identity under the bus to offer a fig leaf to the unconvinced in his audience so that they listen to more central leftist ideas, and still I love him for that. He has millions of followers, I cannot fathom how impactful he has been to leftist advocacy all over the world in the past 5 years. I’m so fucking sick of people putting disclaimers on their support for him. I don’t even sub to him and I love the guy. I know what critical support means and I give him my critical support on full blast.
When I told my husband some Labour politician is calling for this he said it’s not going to be taken seriously. He was surprised and dissapointed to find out the country that says it’s terrorism to hold a sign also bans even ultra-centrist Cenk Ughyr for not being a zionist.
I sometimes watch TYT with Cenk and I have no clue why the UK decided to ban him over that.
What a bunch of chocolate starfishes…
Because UK is a occupied state under Israel.
Hassan and Cenk do paid agitprop for the UK’s adversaries. Why should any country let them come over and tour around the country undermining the government and bolstering conspiracy and driving extremists on both sides. Bet there here to do their favourite thing, undermine a liberal left government so the far right can win.
His name is 5 letters long and is right there in the post title and you still can’t get it right. Reminds me of Fox News hosts intentionally stumbling over and mispronouncing “Mamdani”. At some point it stops being fat fingers or illiteracy and is just bare islamophobia.
they’re* When you make dumb mistakes on something so easy it makes you look like you’re not well read. If your inane take wasn’t enough, that definitely gives it away.
The UK is not under a liberal left government, and if you think Labor is even close to not being far right you’re actually deluded.
“Labour is far right”, you heard it here first folks.
Sure, they’re not left enough by any definition, but far right and not even close to not being far right?
What does the following fall under? As a fun game I’ve included three quotes or headlines regarding Nigel Farage, and six regarding Starmer or the labor government. I can guarantee you will not be able to pick out the Farage ones (I have paraphrased to make googling them and cheating that way difficult.
Answered Yes under oath when asked whether he knew his staffer continued a long-term relationship with Jeffery Epstein after Epstein’s 2008 conviction.
According to an FIDH report they have repeatedly lobbied for legislation and policy that directly supports and upholds the Israeli genocidal state, even when said policies would directly harm the UK and its citizens.
His attacks on Palestinian protestors — and protestors in general have been called a driving voice behind the single greatest regression in democracy in the UK since the Thatcher government.
He has stated Israel “has the right” to withhold, as well as disable all domestic sources of, power and water for Gaza.
He has “transformed the labour party to a place where Jews are welcome again” – t(his one is easy, just hilariously direct.)
During his campaigning he has directly called into question the nationalization of the NHS and has argued limited to full privatization would directly benefit UK citizens.
During his campaign and through his time as a politician, he has directly and consistently worked against the Trans agenda, even when it was unpopular to do so.
His advisors have been anonymously quoted as saying “he does not believe trans women are women” and has publicly stated there was a ‘desperate need’ for trans people to identify themselves in public spaces as trans.
He has been quoted multiple times as saying the UK’s “Open Border’s” Policy needs to be ended and that it should not be so easy for “asylum seekers” to be granted asylum.
And here’s one more for free:
He has stated the “Open Borders” Policy from previous governments has been a squalid chapter in British history and has left “stains” on the “british way of life.” In the same vein, he has rallied against “immigrant rape gangs” using “legal loopholes” to come into the country.
spoiler
Not a single one was about Farage.
It’s still weird everyone ignores Cenk named his organization after the perpetrators of the Armenian genocide…
Armenian Genocide, campaign of deportation and mass killing conducted against the Armenian subjects of the Ottoman Empire by the Young Turk government during World War I (1914–18). Armenians charge that the campaign was a deliberate attempt to destroy the Armenian people and, thus, an act of genocide. The Turkish government has resisted calls to recognize it as such, contending that, although atrocities took place, there was no official policy of extermination implemented against the Armenian people as a group.
https://www.britannica.com/event/Armenian-Genocide
Or that the only reason Hasan has a platform is he’s a nepo nephew…
the only reason Hasan has a platform is he’s a nepo nephew…
Hasan’s platform is Twitch and he’s largely built up his following by doing the same influencer circuit as everyone else.
If he’s got any aces up his sleeve, they’re that he’s gorgeous, he’s quick witted, and he got in on the ground floor when DSA was blowing up
Hasan’s platform is Twitch and he’s largely built up his following by doing the same influencer circuit as everyone else.
I don’t think this is correct, both Hasan and Asmongold are a part of Night Media and I’ve seen no attempt by Hasan to leave. Hasan is also weirdly kiddy-gloved when talking about Asmongold, at least it was like this in the past.
Granted, Night Media employs a lot of people — I just don’t believe Hasan got to where he is by simply hitting the influencer lottery.
