Democrats forget who was president when the genocide started
They didn’t forget; they’re in denial. The left was pretty vocal at the time about how Biden was bending over backwards to assist Netanyahu in his war crimes. They should be sharing a cell right now.
Israel had attempted to goad the U.S. into going to war with Iran since G.W. Bush was president by using the “We are going to strike with or without you” excuse. Bush knew it was a trick. Obama knew it was a trick. Trump’s people in the first admin knew it was a trick. Biden knew it was a trick.
Only an unrestrained Trump surrounded by evangelical warhawks who believe in starting a holy war to bring about the end times would be dumb enough to take Israel’s bait. It was a complete unforced error.
Kamala couldn’t possibly be described as tough on Israel, but I doubt she would have surrounded herself with Fox News sycophants who could possibly convince her to jump at the chance to begin a new protracted war in the Middle East. Only Trump is uniquely unqualified enough to do such a thing.
Not just independents. A lot of Democrats didn’t vote for Harris, either.
It is everybody’s responsibility to vote, and just because you didn’t hear about any anti-genocide candidates, that doesn’t mean that they weren’t on the ballot. In 2024, we had two of them: Jill Stein and Cornel West. Together, they didn’t even get 1% of the vote.
Stein was a candidate not grounded in reality. West was barely even talked about outside of independent voter circles.
the only candidate that had any real hope of winning against Trump was Harris. not because she was the best. because she was the only candidate put forward by the opposition party, and she wasn’t Trump. she was the only candidate with a history with voters. she was literally the only candidate talked about other than Trump.
The DNC wasn’t trying to win the election, they were trying to stay in power.
Independents were not trying to win the election, they were grasping for power.
the failures of both parties and their ineptitude allowed the Trump regime to steal the seat.
2024 was a pivotal moment when both democrats and independents should have put their differences aside and put forward a singular candidate that wasn’t Biden, Harris, Stein, or West.
Instead the American public got the same old song and dance, which the republican party has proven they can work around again and again.
so, whose fault is it that Trump gained the seat again? American voters who failed to read the room and pass their votes grounded in reality. not the DNC. not Independent organizations.
I’m not passing the buck. I’m giving them credit. Not voting for Harris was the right thing to do.
Stein was a candidate not grounded in reality.
Stein wanted to stop arms shipments to Israel. Trump and Harris wanted to continue them.
Stein wanted universal, single-payer healthcare. Trump and Harris did not.
I could go on and on, but if Stein wasn’t “grounded in reality”, then neither is progressivism.
2024 was a pivotal moment when both democrats and independents should have put their differences aside and put forward a singular candidate that wasn’t Biden, Harris, Stein, or West.
Wouldn’t it make more sense to unite behind a candidate who already had ballot lines and party infrastructure? I supported Rocky Anderson in 2012. He was trying to build out his party during his presidential campaign. He was not able to get on enough ballots to get the required number of electors to win. I did not vote for Rocky Anderson in 2012.
I’m not passing the buck. I’m giving them credit. Not voting for Harris was the right thing to do.
still refusing to take any responsibility.
Stein wanted to stop arms shipments to Israel. Trump and Harris wanted to continue them.
an ineffective way to maintain diplomatic ties with a country that helps our country maintain control of the middle east. a poor choice that would only allow Russia or the Saudis to grasp complete control which would only further expose the US to foreign attacks.
Stein wanted universal, single-payer healthcare. Trump and Harris did not.
that will never happen until all of Congress is filled with politicians that are willing to allow that to happen. Also, Stein lacks the tactics and connections in Washington to even start the conversation to accomplish this.
I could go on and on, but if Stein wasn’t “grounded in reality”, then neither is progressivism.
I’m glad you’re starting to catch on. progress happens slowly and just winning an election won’t fix all our problems. voting for Harris would have fixed one problem. Trump.
Wouldn’t it make more sense to unite behind a candidate who already had ballot lines and party infrastructure? I supported Rocky Anderson in 2012. He was trying to build out his party during his presidential campaign. He was not able to get on enough ballots to get the required number of electors to win. I did not vote for Rocky Anderson in 2012.
who the fuck is Rocky Anderson? you want regular Americans to vote for people they have never heard of before. this is what I mean by “grounded in reality”.
a candidate that has zero recognition, zero national contributions, zero prospects, zero experience has zero chance of ever becoming president.
wouldn’t it make more sense to unite behind a candidate that has a chance of blocking the most powerful governing seat in the world from the worlds most corrupt criminal? even if that candidate wasn’t perfect for the job, they still would have been better than allowing the corruption to fill the seat and ruin it for generations.
🤷 we’ll never know how bad or good it could have been though, so no use in arguing over it.
I guess we will never know and are stuck with the hundreds of dead on our hands (so far).
Hundreds of dead? You start the counting only once Trump is in office? You killed hundreds of thousands. And you don’t take responsibility at all. You literally point at a picture of Trump and blame him for all of your sins.
no google image search to do the talking for you this time?
And what ‘low effort troll’? That’s just an extremely online, extremely stupid person’s thought terminating cliche. You just have no response to what I said. And you’re too immature to walk away.
Republicans forget who was president when covid started
Democrats forget who was president when the genocide started
If you think President Harris doesn’t follow Israel into war with Iran, you are dumb
They didn’t forget; they’re in denial. The left was pretty vocal at the time about how Biden was bending over backwards to assist Netanyahu in his war crimes. They should be sharing a cell right now.
Israel had attempted to goad the U.S. into going to war with Iran since G.W. Bush was president by using the “We are going to strike with or without you” excuse. Bush knew it was a trick. Obama knew it was a trick. Trump’s people in the first admin knew it was a trick. Biden knew it was a trick.
Only an unrestrained Trump surrounded by evangelical warhawks who believe in starting a holy war to bring about the end times would be dumb enough to take Israel’s bait. It was a complete unforced error.
Kamala couldn’t possibly be described as tough on Israel, but I doubt she would have surrounded herself with Fox News sycophants who could possibly convince her to jump at the chance to begin a new protracted war in the Middle East. Only Trump is uniquely unqualified enough to do such a thing.
What the fuck delusional shit is this.
SHE **WAS **A FOX NEWS SYCHOPHANT WHO WAS THE VP FOR AN ADMINISTRATION THAT JUMPED AT THE CHANCE TO BEGIN A NEW PROTRACTED WAR IN THE MIDDLE EAST
THIS IS THE SAME WAR
EXIT YOUR FUCKING MIND PALACE
Take your meds.
What’s your point? Got more Nazi shit you’re thinking of doing right now?
I guess we will never know and are stuck with the hundreds of dead on our hands (so far).
I wonder 🤔 will independents remember who allowed a dictator to install themselves because they decided to gamble at the worst time?
oh that’s right, independent voters have an aversion to reality and refuse to accept any responsibility for the outcome of the 2024 election results.
that sounds oddly familiar…
Not just independents. A lot of Democrats didn’t vote for Harris, either.
It is everybody’s responsibility to vote, and just because you didn’t hear about any anti-genocide candidates, that doesn’t mean that they weren’t on the ballot. In 2024, we had two of them: Jill Stein and Cornel West. Together, they didn’t even get 1% of the vote.
passing that buck back to democrats I see.
Stein was a candidate not grounded in reality. West was barely even talked about outside of independent voter circles.
the only candidate that had any real hope of winning against Trump was Harris. not because she was the best. because she was the only candidate put forward by the opposition party, and she wasn’t Trump. she was the only candidate with a history with voters. she was literally the only candidate talked about other than Trump.
The DNC wasn’t trying to win the election, they were trying to stay in power.
Independents were not trying to win the election, they were grasping for power.
the failures of both parties and their ineptitude allowed the Trump regime to steal the seat.
2024 was a pivotal moment when both democrats and independents should have put their differences aside and put forward a singular candidate that wasn’t Biden, Harris, Stein, or West.
Instead the American public got the same old song and dance, which the republican party has proven they can work around again and again.
so, whose fault is it that Trump gained the seat again? American voters who failed to read the room and pass their votes grounded in reality. not the DNC. not Independent organizations.
I’m not passing the buck. I’m giving them credit. Not voting for Harris was the right thing to do.
Stein wanted to stop arms shipments to Israel. Trump and Harris wanted to continue them.
Stein wanted universal, single-payer healthcare. Trump and Harris did not.
I could go on and on, but if Stein wasn’t “grounded in reality”, then neither is progressivism.
Wouldn’t it make more sense to unite behind a candidate who already had ballot lines and party infrastructure? I supported Rocky Anderson in 2012. He was trying to build out his party during his presidential campaign. He was not able to get on enough ballots to get the required number of electors to win. I did not vote for Rocky Anderson in 2012.
still refusing to take any responsibility.
an ineffective way to maintain diplomatic ties with a country that helps our country maintain control of the middle east. a poor choice that would only allow Russia or the Saudis to grasp complete control which would only further expose the US to foreign attacks.
that will never happen until all of Congress is filled with politicians that are willing to allow that to happen. Also, Stein lacks the tactics and connections in Washington to even start the conversation to accomplish this.
I’m glad you’re starting to catch on. progress happens slowly and just winning an election won’t fix all our problems. voting for Harris would have fixed one problem. Trump.
who the fuck is Rocky Anderson? you want regular Americans to vote for people they have never heard of before. this is what I mean by “grounded in reality”.
a candidate that has zero recognition, zero national contributions, zero prospects, zero experience has zero chance of ever becoming president.
wouldn’t it make more sense to unite behind a candidate that has a chance of blocking the most powerful governing seat in the world from the worlds most corrupt criminal? even if that candidate wasn’t perfect for the job, they still would have been better than allowing the corruption to fill the seat and ruin it for generations.
🤷 we’ll never know how bad or good it could have been though, so no use in arguing over it.
“I don’t take responsibility at all”
Hundreds of dead? You start the counting only once Trump is in office? You killed hundreds of thousands. And you don’t take responsibility at all. You literally point at a picture of Trump and blame him for all of your sins.
What a baby
Guess you didn’t have much to say after all
not to a low effort troll.
your game is trash, son. I’ve seen better trolls on club penguin.
no google image search to do the talking for you this time?
And what ‘low effort troll’? That’s just an extremely online, extremely stupid person’s thought terminating cliche. You just have no response to what I said. And you’re too immature to walk away.
Joseph Biden wasn’t president of Israel.
Mmm, useless speculation. Tastes like shit.