For companies, the cloud has been amazing. Almost every company has their infra in the cloud now. Its expensive but gives them one click access to hundreds of services.
I think Ai will also be amazing for companies.
For people? Probably not great. Ai will track and monitor every human. I cant see any other future as long as big tech is driving.
So can we fast track the “oh no, they where right after all” and just skip all the bullshit?
Cloud turned out to be largely a stupid idea with a few decent applications that should have been shackled down by consumer protection laws from the get go.
Meanwhile, you sound like “nft is the future of art” crowd that sounded like “bitcoins are the future of money” crowd that sounded like “web 3.0 is here and will always be relevant” crowd that sounded like…
the old crowd is still going strong and have been proven largely correct because what they/we were really against was going from a “you own this software” model to a “perpetual licensing” model with price hikes, lock-in, and everything becoming a service.
it’s not completely enshittified, there are lots of great cloud-based services. some long-term, some at various stages of the enshittification curve.
same with AI. it doesn’t all suck, and it won’t all suck. but a lot/most of it does and will absolutely suck and it will enshittify many things.
Which, yeah, isn’t great, but I stand with my intsance’s viewpoint on generative AI:
In other words, we’re not against Generative AI as a technology but we are against Generative AI as promoted by capitalism and corporate interests. To put this into perspective, it’s like saying: We’re not against using camera equipment, but we’re against the surveillance industry.
I can definitely see a lot of the utility llms have, but a claude.md shows that they’re using Claude, a corporate, proprietary model, and they’re Claude code, which means they’re likely using it to make significant amounts of code.
If yours is, I totally get where you’re coming from, AI-generated code is pretty bad right now, albeit it does often work.
The way I often do things is have an agent create a rough first implementation according to my own architecture, so I have done all that high-level thinking that it currently struggles with; then I have a dedicated improvement agent come and clear that up substantially, and then I review whatever is left.
Plenty of people think their art is awful, even when it isn’t, programmers especially so.
Its not about just respect for your own art, but respect for everyone else in the art form. If you wrote bad code but put in effort, you still put effort into the art, therefore its not an insult to the medium itself, and the community around it.
Furthermore, how do you expect to get better at that art when you have the easel do so much of the painting for you?
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The “fuck ai” crowd sounds so much like the “fuck cloud” crowd from 10-15 years ago.
I mean… The “fuck cloud” crowd were right, unless you actually enjoy house appliances that cease functioning without an Internet connection.
For companies, the cloud has been amazing. Almost every company has their infra in the cloud now. Its expensive but gives them one click access to hundreds of services.
I think Ai will also be amazing for companies.
For people? Probably not great. Ai will track and monitor every human. I cant see any other future as long as big tech is driving.
We hate cloud here too, what’s your point?
So can we fast track the “oh no, they where right after all” and just skip all the bullshit?
Cloud turned out to be largely a stupid idea with a few decent applications that should have been shackled down by consumer protection laws from the get go.
Meanwhile, you sound like “nft is the future of art” crowd that sounded like “bitcoins are the future of money” crowd that sounded like “web 3.0 is here and will always be relevant” crowd that sounded like…
the old crowd is still going strong and have been proven largely correct because what they/we were really against was going from a “you own this software” model to a “perpetual licensing” model with price hikes, lock-in, and everything becoming a service.
it’s not completely enshittified, there are lots of great cloud-based services. some long-term, some at various stages of the enshittification curve.
same with AI. it doesn’t all suck, and it won’t all suck. but a lot/most of it does and will absolutely suck and it will enshittify many things.
Honestly those people are proven right every time there’s a data breach or service goes down for no discernable reason.
Can confirm, both are an extension of Corporatocracy and the abortion of privacy.
And in which direction are we going?
Back from
everything into the the cloud
to
Everything back on-premise or a hybrid model
I’m still anti-cloud
Yes I think if software companies put money into easy to setup home servers that would be better than what’s available to the average consumer.
I might be the sort of person to keep a 24u rack in their closet, but you shouldn’t have to to reap the benefits.
I mean Jesus, even cloud providers know this. Just look at AWS Outposts.
The difference is that, unlike “AI”, cloud hosting actually exists.
(I admit, I liked the cloud crowd better.)
Grow up.
One can grow up with time but one cannot mature without experience.
So you go and become more mature.
What does it mean?
It means the Dev used Claude.
Which, yeah, isn’t great, but I stand with my intsance’s viewpoint on generative AI:
The full wiki page.
Just a lot
homonculipeople see AI and start screaming “AI slop” from the hilltops.I can definitely see a lot of the utility llms have, but a claude.md shows that they’re using Claude, a corporate, proprietary model, and they’re Claude code, which means they’re likely using it to make significant amounts of code.
That’s not true. You can use Claude code CLI with local LLM models (via Ollama or llama.cpp)
Do you think they are, though? Besides, doesn’t that require some hacks to get working
Not at all, it’s a Markdown file, plaintext. You just instruct your agent to assimilate that file into it’s context.
Programming is an art and using LLMs makes you as much of a hack as a visual artist resorting to Stable Diffusion.
Everything matters. From high-level architecture to little details of implementation.
Last time I checked us programmers had preferences for details as small as tabs vs. spaces, or curly bracket placement.
You think I’m going to let a fucking machine make decisions about implementation for me?
Let alone high-level architectual ones?
Everything about your software should have intent, and its impossible for LLMs to actually intend to do something.
So you can fuck right off with that, and while you’re at it, stop poisoning the worlds codebases (and drinking supply.)
Trust me my code aint worthy of being “art”.
If yours is, I totally get where you’re coming from, AI-generated code is pretty bad right now, albeit it does often work.
The way I often do things is have an agent create a rough first implementation according to my own architecture, so I have done all that high-level thinking that it currently struggles with; then I have a dedicated improvement agent come and clear that up substantially, and then I review whatever is left.
Drawing a dick on a foggy mirror is art.
Plenty of people think their art is awful, even when it isn’t, programmers especially so.
Its not about just respect for your own art, but respect for everyone else in the art form. If you wrote bad code but put in effort, you still put effort into the art, therefore its not an insult to the medium itself, and the community around it.
Furthermore, how do you expect to get better at that art when you have the easel do so much of the painting for you?